Why has Jonathan been missing from the recent podcasts?
If demons believe in God, then what else is required for salvation? What is the difference between normal faith and saving faith? On this episode we discuss this important issue.
Listen to the audio version here: https://theconqueringtruth.com/2024/06/what-is-saving-faith-ep-171-audio/
Timecodes
00:00:00 Faith in Hebrews 11
00:02:45 Believing the Promises
00:21:11 Visible Frames the Invisible
00:36:47 Implications of Having Faith
00:41:31 Faith in Children
00:44:08 Faith and Works
00:57:33 Hatred of Church Discipline
01:07:13 Concluding Thoughts
If demons believe in God, then what else is required for salvation? What is the difference between normal faith and saving faith? On this episode we discuss this important issue.
Production of Reformation Baptist Church of Youngsville, NC
Hosts – Dan Horn, Jonathan Sides, Charles Churchill and Joshua Horn
Technical Director – Timothy Kaiser
Theme Music – Gabriel Hudelson
In 2021, John MacArthur preached a message to his church addressing how to think about Christianity’s decline in America. It starts out like this: “Hey, we tried. We honestly did. I think you did. I think I did. I mean I took interviews, I responded to questions I think we tried to have an influence on our nation last year.” He goes on to talk about how the world isn’t interested in Christianity and then he says this: “We don’t win down here. We lose. You ready for that? Oh, you thought because you were a postmillennialist, you thought we’re just going to go waltzing into the kingdom because you took over the world. No, we lose here. Get it? They killed Jesus, they killed all the apostles, we’re all going to be persecuted. If any man come after me’, let him what, ‘deny himself’. Garbage of prosperity gospel. No, we don’t win down here. Are you ready for that? Just to clear the air – I love this clarity – we don’t win. We lose on this battlefield, but we win on the big one – the eternal one. “
His response is a good example of why we’ve been doing more episodes about eschatology lately and why we think it matters. Because those verses he quotes and references about persecution and denying ourselves are true, but they make absolutely no sense in the way he is using them. As much as we appreciate John MacArthur’s ministry, his teaching is really wrong on this. Even if you hold to dispensational theology, you shouldn’t think about those verses in that way. Denying yourself is not at odds with succeeding, some of the most successful people by any standard have been faithful Christians. Yes, it means you can’t pursue carnal things, but surely that’s not something a Christian would object to. And this isn’t something that’s only true in the New Covenant. Even in the Old Testament, Daniel was persecuted for his faith, he took up his cross and looked toward Jesus and he had a huge impact on the world around him. So did Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, Joseph, Moses, Obadiah, Ezekiel, Isaiah, Jesus all the apostles and countless others throughout history.
So in this episode, we want to really push on this issue. How should we think about the church’s success? How should we think about persecution and denying ourself? Are they at odds with one another? And along the way, should we expect the gospel to have an impact on the world around us? These are important questions. Please join us as we consider them.
Link to John MacArthur clip: https://youtube.com/shorts/5fr6lGeDRsQ?si=AZkuhoq–KLuN2_w
Link to full John MacArthur message:
https://youtu.be/N8revRpzF9Q?si=OwRgq55OMHuczn7S
Listen to the audio version here: https://theconqueringtruth.com/2024/06/john-macarthur-is-wrong-about-eschatology-we-dont-lose-down-here-ep-171-audio/
Timecodes
00:00 The Video
01:28 Is MacArthur Loosing?
10:10 Waltzing into the Kingdom
35:31 Denying Yourself
54:46 Suffering Persecution
57:36 More Important Battlefield
In 2021, John MacArthur preached a message to his church addressing how to think about Christianity’s decline in America. It starts out like this: “Hey, we tried. We honestly did. I think you did. I think I did. I mean I took interviews, I responded to questions I think we tried to have an influence on our nation last year.” He goes on to talk about how the world isn’t interested in Christianity and then he says this: “We don’t win down here. We lose. You ready for that? Oh, you thought because you were a postmillennialist, you thought we’re just going to go waltzing into the kingdom because you took over the world. No, we lose here. Get it? They killed Jesus, they killed all the apostles, we’re all going to be persecuted. If any man come after me’, let him what, ‘deny himself’. Garbage of prosperity gospel. No, we don’t win down here. Are you ready for that? Just to clear the air – I love this clarity – we don’t win. We lose on this battlefield, but we win on the big one – the eternal one. “
His response is a good example of why we’ve been doing more episodes about eschatology lately and why we think it matters. Because those verses he quotes and references about persecution and denying ourselves are true, but they make absolutely no sense in the way he is using them. As much as we appreciate John MacArthur’s ministry, his teaching is really wrong on this. Even if you hold to dispensational theology, you shouldn’t think about those verses in that way. Denying yourself is not at odds with succeeding, some of the most successful people by any standard have been faithful Christians. Yes, it means you can’t pursue carnal things, but surely that’s not something a Christian would object to. And this isn’t something that’s only true in the New Covenant. Even in the Old Testament, Daniel was persecuted for his faith, he took up his cross and looked toward Jesus and he had a huge impact on the world around him. So did Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, Joseph, Moses, Obadiah, Ezekiel, Isaiah, Jesus all the apostles and countless others throughout history.
So in this episode, we want to really push on this issue. How should we think about the church’s success? How should we think about persecution and denying ourself? Are they at odds with one another? And along the way, should we expect the gospel to have an impact on the world around us? These are important questions. Please join us as we consider them.
Link to John MacArthur clip: https://youtube.com/shorts/5fr6lGeDRsQ?si=AZkuhoq–KLuN2_w
Link to full John MacArthur message:
https://youtu.be/N8revRpzF9Q?si=OwRgq55OMHuczn7S
Production of Reformation Baptist Church of Youngsville, NC
Hosts – Dan Horn, Jonathan Sides, Charles Churchill and Joshua Horn
Technical Director – Timothy Kaiser
Theme Music – Gabriel Hudelson
A series of exposé articles have just come out about Voice of the Martyrs. This is a group that we’ve discussed a great deal in the past, we we give our perspective on the recent revelations. We discuss Cole Richards, Jason Peters, ECFA, the dishonor of God, and the right way to clean all this up.
Our previous videos on VOM
https://persecutingthepersecuted.com/
Articles on VOM from the Roys Report
https://julieroys.com/whistleblowers-accuse-vom-president-deception-retaliation/
https://julieroys.com/former-voice-of-the-martyrs-executive-calls-resignations-time-clean-house/
https://julieroys.com/whistleblowers-voice-of-the-martyrs-president-put-optics-needs-persecuted-christians/
https://julieroys.com/whistleblowers-retaliation-sham-investigation/
Jason Peters video – https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tdE1xS8L_wY
Production of Reformation Baptist Church of Youngsville, NC
Hosts – Dan Horn, Connor Swim, Charles Churchill and Joshua Horn
Technical Director – James Winstead
Theme Music – Gabriel Hudelson
A series of exposé articles have just come out about Voice of the Martyrs. This is a group that we’ve discussed a great deal in the past, we we give our perspective on the recent revelations. We discuss Cole Richards, Jason Peters, ECFA, the dishonor of God, and the right way to clean all this up.
Our previous videos on VOM
https://persecutingthepersecuted.com/
Articles on VOM from the Roys Report
https://julieroys.com/whistleblowers-accuse-vom-president-deception-retaliation/
https://julieroys.com/former-voice-of-the-martyrs-executive-calls-resignations-time-clean-house/
https://julieroys.com/whistleblowers-voice-of-the-martyrs-president-put-optics-needs-persecuted-christians/
https://julieroys.com/whistleblowers-retaliation-sham-investigation/
Jason Peters video – https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tdE1xS8L_wY
Production of Reformation Baptist Church of Youngsville, NC
Hosts – Dan Horn, Connor Swim, Charles Churchill and Joshua Horn
Technical Director – James Winstead
Theme Music – Gabriel Hudelson
When you hear the word “Evolution” it is usually meant as a stand-in for Charles Darwin’s theory of evolution, specifically the idea that all life on earth arose from natural processes beginning with “some warm little pond with all sort of ammonia and phosphoric salts,—light, heat, electricity present, that a protein compound was chemically formed”. As we discuss in the episode, Darwin was by no means the first to propose such an idea, as his grandfather had written something very similar many years before. But what was needed for evolution to flourish was not the idea, but a community in the world, ready and willing to embrace it.
In this episode, we want to discuss some of the Biblical and logical problems inherent with evolution as a theory. We discuss the problem of “Death before Adam”, of man desiring to worship the creature rather than the creator, and how order does not arise from disorder. We also talk about how the pursuit of the theory of evolution has caused harm in many other areas of science as our insistence that specific falsehoods regarding order vs chaos must be true has caused us to pour untold time and resources into technological dead ends.
The theory of evolution is just that, a theory. It takes a lot of ideas, some of which are true, and makes claims that are contrary to science and reason. Support for evolution requires for teachers and scientists to tell lies about randomness, about order and chaos, about the nature of humans and most importantly, what the universe declares about the nature of God Himself. The church must continue to stand against its lies, and then to go beyond that, to tear down the stronghold that has been created with the truth of God’s word. Please join us as we discuss this very important topic.
Below are two videos that are mentioned in the episode along with some notes and commentary by Charles.
Dr. Drew Berry giving a Ted Talk on how he has used technology to help visualize the complexity of DNA and other cellular/molecular objects to better understand their complexity. While the entire video is worth watching, if you want to jump to the key part, it begins at 2:45. I also want to call out a few points. The visualizations he shows in this video are divided into two sections. In the first, he looks at DNA and the process of it being copied, He then shows the scope and “size” of a single strand of DNA. In the last section, he focuses on the kinetochore of a cell and he mentions that scientists have been studying this part of the cell for over a hundred years of intense study, saying, “and we’re just beginning to understand what it’s about”. As you look at the DNA and the close ups of the kinetochore and the process of cell division, keep these in mind as you watch the next video by Dr. Tour. Many of the components that Dr. Tour discusses are pieces of this single cell. Not how strongly Dr. Berry is emphasizing the complexity of what he is showing you. My impression was of someone who is almost overwhelmed by how little mankind knows about this tiny part of a single cell that we have spent such a long time studying. https://youtu.be/WFCvkkDSfIU?si=XxkbJoUvJ8F0KzNI
James Tour, on Inorganic Chemistry and Origin of Life. In this video, Dr. Tour discusses how little we know about the origins of life. How complex it is from a chemical perspective to just create the most simple components of life and how we have not even begun to unravel how it might be done in a laboratory setting with tools and technology much less in Darwin’s “warm little pond”.
https://youtu.be/r4sP1E1Jd_Y?si=oJEKTMYhMB7FHIUi
Listen to the audio version here: https://theconqueringtruth.com/2024/05/evolution-is-wrong-why-christians-should-teach-against-it-ep-169-audio/
Timecodes
00:00 The Science of Atheism
12:13 Creating Life
17:29 Search for a Theory
41:08 Old Earth Christians
46:24 Spurgeon on Evolution
54:35 Impact of Evolution
When you hear the word “Evolution” it is usually meant as a stand-in for Charles Darwin’s theory of evolution, specifically the idea that all life on earth arose from natural processes beginning with “some warm little pond with all sort of ammonia and phosphoric salts,—light, heat, electricity present, that a protein compound was chemically formed”. As we discuss in the episode, Darwin was by no means the first to propose such an idea, as his grandfather had written something very similar many years before. But what was needed for evolution to flourish was not the idea, but a community in the world, ready and willing to embrace it.
In this episode, we want to discuss some of the Biblical and logical problems inherent with evolution as a theory. We discuss the problem of “Death before Adam”, of man desiring to worship the creature rather than the creator, and how order does not arise from disorder. We also talk about how the pursuit of the theory of evolution has caused harm in many other areas of science as our insistence that specific falsehoods regarding order vs chaos must be true has caused us to pour untold time and resources into technological dead ends.
The theory of evolution is just that, a theory. It takes a lot of ideas, some of which are true, and makes claims that are contrary to science and reason. Support for evolution requires for teachers and scientists to tell lies about randomness, about order and chaos, about the nature of humans and most importantly, what the universe declares about the nature of God Himself. The church must continue to stand against its lies, and then to go beyond that, to tear down the stronghold that has been created with the truth of God’s word. Please join us as we discuss this very important topic.
Below are two videos that are mentioned in the episode along with some notes and commentary by Charles.
Dr. Drew Berry giving a Ted Talk on how he has used technology to help visualize the complexity of DNA and other cellular/molecular objects to better understand their complexity. While the entire video is worth watching, if you want to jump to the key part, it begins at 2:45. I also want to call out a few points. The visualizations he shows in this video are divided into two sections. In the first, he looks at DNA and the process of it being copied, He then shows the scope and “size” of a single strand of DNA. In the last section, he focuses on the kinetochore of a cell and he mentions that scientists have been studying this part of the cell for over a hundred years of intense study, saying, “and we’re just beginning to understand what it’s about”. As you look at the DNA and the close ups of the kinetochore and the process of cell division, keep these in mind as you watch the next video by Dr. Tour. Many of the components that Dr. Tour discusses are pieces of this single cell. Not how strongly Dr. Berry is emphasizing the complexity of what he is showing you. My impression was of someone who is almost overwhelmed by how little mankind knows about this tiny part of a single cell that we have spent such a long time studying. https://youtu.be/WFCvkkDSfIU?si=XxkbJoUvJ8F0KzNI
James Tour, on Inorganic Chemistry and Origin of Life. In this video, Dr. Tour discusses how little we know about the origins of life. How complex it is from a chemical perspective to just create the most simple components of life and how we have not even begun to unravel how it might be done in a laboratory setting with tools and technology much less in Darwin’s “warm little pond”.
https://youtu.be/r4sP1E1Jd_Y?si=oJEKTMYhMB7FHIUi
Production of Reformation Baptist Church of Youngsville, NC
Hosts – Dan Horn, Jonathan Sides, Charles Churchill and Joshua Horn
Technical Director – Timothy Kaiser
Theme Music – Gabriel Hudelson
When you think of the Christian life, do you immediately think of warfare? It’s all throughout scripture. So much of the Old Testament was about battles and soldiers, and armies waging war. And in the New Testament, we’re told that while the warfare continues, it’s a spiritual battle that we are to be fighting. But so often, we want to pretend that the spiritual battle shouldn’t disturb our comfort. We are tempted to prize unity over truth, to desire to compromise so no one gets offended instead of understanding that the way is narrow to eternal life. But even more than that, very often, churches and the Christians that fill them, have very little love for their neighbor, because they would rather have pleasantries than salvation. The other metaphor that gets used a great deal in scripture is of sheep and shepherds. And sheep are not something you think of as mighty. They get hurt easily. They got lost. They have to be looked after. But we’ve taken our favorite parts of these two very different metaphors and instead of being warriors who fight for the righteousness of God, and humble shepherds and sheep who care for those who are hurting and wounded, we stand around polishing our armor while the battle is being lost, and laughing and playing in the sun while wolves are ravaging the flock.
In this episode, we want to issue a wake-up call. If we could, we would reach through the screen and grab you by the shoulders and shake you, as we shouted, “Stop playing church! There are men and women in your midst who are suffering!”. This is for pastors and laymen, for men and women, for the old and the young. For everyone who claims the name of Christ, WAKE UP! As the Apostle Paul commands in Romans 13: “The night is far spent, the day is at hand. Therefore let us cast off the works of darkness, and let us put on the armor of light,” and similarly in Ephesians, “Therefore take up the whole armor of God, that you may be able to withstand in the evil day, and having done all, to stand.”
This wasn’t an easy episode to record in some ways. Each of us on the panel can look back at grave mistakes we’ve made in the past. At times when we should have spoken but didn’t, when we should have pushed on an issue but instead just gave slight healing. Repentance from a lack of care almost always requires action on our part. These are not light things. The church in America is in dire straits and those who love God must turn from our apathy. Please join us as we discuss these important topics.